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  An interesting conversation with JW´s today in town....

  by Mr Fool in

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  i guess the conversation was meanless, they are probably lost cases anyway.... .

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  Mr Fool

  

  I guess the conversation was meanless, they are probably lost cases anyway....
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  Christioan guy, my understanding is that there a very few agnostic people here, very few. I have promised before not to talk about the benefit of being"open minded", so........atheists and religious people believe what they believe, and that´s it. I know because I have been there.

  "A convinced mind is open for its own conviction - an open mind is open for the truth"
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  Hi Christian guy, nice introducion

  If you have experienced "things" (visions, true dreams or similar), atheists here will probably question you, not because of humility but because they may want to "correct" you. Then it´s better you keep these pearls for yourself. Just a thought.

  Looking forward to hear more clever argumentation from you
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  God has no plan for anyone ever lived?!

  by Mr Fool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to jw all people are born by chance and death also come by chance, a lottery.

  therefore no one is meant to be.

  if god has a plan for certain volume of people (kind of 144 000), how can that be if he has no idea which kind of souls being created (by accident)?.

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  Mr Fool

  I have watched it.

  The door A and B is an intersting case and I do understand your point. But what if someone lives his identical 24 hours again and again when suddenly one of these 24 hours, in the night, his heart stopped for a minute and he went through a "near death experince" with a higher level of reality that "makes this physical world very dreamy and illusionary". Would he repeat the same actions again?

  Sorry if I missunderstand your point.
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  God has no plan for anyone ever lived?!

  by Mr Fool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to jw all people are born by chance and death also come by chance, a lottery.

  therefore no one is meant to be.

  if god has a plan for certain volume of people (kind of 144 000), how can that be if he has no idea which kind of souls being created (by accident)?.

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  Thanks for the vid, snare&racket. They see it in black and white. Have they never thought about the possibility of a pre-determined birth and a pre-determined death but not so much determination between?
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  God has no plan for anyone ever lived?!

  by Mr Fool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to jw all people are born by chance and death also come by chance, a lottery.

  therefore no one is meant to be.

  if god has a plan for certain volume of people (kind of 144 000), how can that be if he has no idea which kind of souls being created (by accident)?.

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  Mr Fool

  According to JW all people are born by chance and death also come by chance, a lottery. Therefore no one is meant to be. If God has a plan for certain volume of people (kind of 144 000), how can that be if He has no idea which kind of souls being created (by accident)?

  An ignorant God with a lottery of souls entering the Heaven?
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  A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

  peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

  - amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

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  I change it; People with an atheistic ideology can be very dominating and arrogant.
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  SBF, you will be missed.....just hope you follow your heart. But I too have the feeling that Adam may have right. If so (wouldn´t surprise me, many JW are nosey of nature) the so humble "Elders of SBF" may watch this forum (and this thread) to see if he´s holding his word.

  Take care SBF
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  A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

  peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

  - amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

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  Mr Fool

  People with faith in science can be very irrational and very arrogant.
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  A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

  peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

  - amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

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  Mr Fool

  A religious believer who becomes an etheist; he/she change his/her belief to another one.......

  After this statement Cofty will attack me again